Feb 25, 2008, 05:52 AM // 05:52
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#21
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Mableton, Georgia
Guild: Guild Ancestors Reunited [ギルド]
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Because an IAS increases your damage output and adrenaline gain. It's not required, but it is very useful, and there's usually no reason not to have one.
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i am 'always' at max adrenaline after the 5 second recharge from RoN. i also have enraging charge in my build and it gives +4 adrenal. so, when skills are recharged i can get them back up instantly with ECN. after i pull off another combo, RoN is recharged and i can use the combo on my bar again, and when the combo is done, i use EC to give my bar max adrenal to pull it off yet AGAIN!. so... as you can see.. it's a neverending loop. i created my build i am solely 100% on 'never' giving it out-- EVER. why? well, my build is my own and i take GREAT pride in what i created and i in no way what so ever want to see it nerfed from some-1 posting it on pvx/wiki and furthermore everyone else using it. i've made builds that made it to "builds" page of wiki (before it was removed) and i've had hundreds, if not thousands, of people use my build.
having said all of this, my build is quite sound
Last edited by jonnieboi05; Feb 25, 2008 at 05:56 AM // 05:56..
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Feb 25, 2008, 05:55 AM // 05:55
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#22
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Did I hear 7 heroes?
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)
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was just suggesting it to buff up the attacks-why 20/20 when u can have 20 always/ 40/20
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Because you attack slow and all of your skills are blacked out for 10 seconds. You can't build up adrenaline to unload in the 10 seconds after with Dwarven Stability. Flail/Frenzy = 50% more damage on top of building adrenaline faster to unload attack skills with that wonderful +damage that ignores armour.
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Feb 25, 2008, 05:57 AM // 05:57
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#23
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Northeastern Ohio
Guild: LaZy
Profession: P/W
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Your only possible source of reliable IAS without completely skrewing up your bar is Weapon of Aggression's 25%. Even then, it's a pretty sketchy bar.
Primal Rage, it seems, slightly mimics Vow of Strength, but completely fails in doing so. Now if it disabled all attack skills, or provided 33 movement AND IAS, then I might see using it. Even then...
I could live with it even if you added IAS and got rid of the AP, Increased movement, and skill blackout :/
Last edited by Axel Zinfandel; Feb 25, 2008 at 05:59 AM // 05:59..
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Feb 25, 2008, 06:03 AM // 06:03
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#24
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Profession: N/
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The only thing that would benefit from Primal Rage is swinging a scythe for the critical hits. Add Aura of Holy might to that too and you might get some nice damage.
Most other dervish enchantments last 20 sec so they might also be interesting for buffs that last as long as Primal Rage would. I don't like the idea of disabling my skills though. Maybe timing it so that Eternal aura runs out right after activating Primal Rage could get arround that ?
Last edited by odly; Feb 25, 2008 at 06:58 AM // 06:58..
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Feb 25, 2008, 06:12 AM // 06:12
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#25
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Hugs and Kisses
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: Scars Meadows
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
i am 'always' at max adrenaline after the 5 second recharge from RoN. i also have enraging charge in my build and it gives +4 adrenal. so, when skills are recharged i can get them back up instantly with ECN. after i pull off another combo, RoN is recharged and i can use the combo on my bar again, and when the combo is done, i use EC to give my bar max adrenal to pull it off yet AGAIN!. so... as you can see.. it's a neverending loop. i created my build i am solely 100% on 'never' giving it out-- EVER. why? well, my build is my own and i take GREAT pride in what i created and i in no way what so ever want to see it nerfed from some-1 posting it on pvx/wiki and furthermore everyone else using it. i've made builds that made it to "builds" page of wiki (before it was removed) and i've had hundreds, if not thousands, of people use my build.
having said all of this, my build is quite sound
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Or you could run the D-slash Brawling Steelfang combo and output twice as much DPS as your super secret build; and be able to consistently pump out SY.
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Feb 25, 2008, 06:51 AM // 06:51
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#26
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Mableton, Georgia
Guild: Guild Ancestors Reunited [ギルド]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Phantom
Or you could run the D-slash Brawling Steelfang combo and output twice as much DPS as your super secret build; and be able to consistently pump out SY.
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why would i want save yourselves in my build? that would be a complete waste of a skill. why? well, to be able to completely wipe out anything that i aggro within 8-10 seconds, they don't exactly have no where near enough time to even get close to killing anyone in my party.
anyways, enough of this rubble. i have work in the morning and i am due for my sweet bed. me being able to wipe anything out i want in GW in extremely good time and flawlessly do it is enough for me. i have done my work (hence the 28 maxed titles and only needing to finish vanq'ing elona to get 30) and it's been a smooth ride the entire way... so, i need to change absolutely nothing in my build.
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Feb 25, 2008, 07:20 AM // 07:20
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#27
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Wasting away again in Margaritaville
Guild: [HOTR]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex
DM also happens to be a stance
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Oops. Um, then 8 dead pets and IWAY. It can't fail.
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Feb 25, 2008, 07:47 AM // 07:47
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#28
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Guild: None
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
why would i want save yourselves in my build? that would be a complete waste of a skill. why? well, to be able to completely wipe out anything that i aggro within 8-10 seconds, they don't exactly have no where near enough time to even get close to killing anyone in my party.
anyways, enough of this rubble. i have work in the morning and i am due for my sweet bed. me being able to wipe anything out i want in GW in extremely good time and flawlessly do it is enough for me. i have done my work (hence the 28 maxed titles and only needing to finish vanq'ing elona to get 30) and it's been a smooth ride the entire way... so, i need to change absolutely nothing in my build.
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Please leave the warrior forum and never return
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Feb 26, 2008, 01:08 AM // 01:08
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#29
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Feb 2007
Guild: [SNOW] of [YUM]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
why would i want save yourselves in my build?
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Why do you win PVE that muuchh???
And your obviously bsing like hell. There are shitloads of HM bosses you cant down in 5 seconds such as Willa the unpleasant without a huge specially designed hero + you spike. And your RoN and EC build has far less damage than Dragon slash even without IAS.
And your builds pretty damn obvious now. FGJ, RoN, EC, Sword chain/axe chain blah blah blah.
Last edited by angmar_nite; Feb 26, 2008 at 01:34 AM // 01:34..
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Feb 26, 2008, 01:37 AM // 01:37
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#30
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Hugs and Kisses
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: Scars Meadows
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
why would i want save yourselves in my build? that would be a complete waste of a skill. why? well, to be able to completely wipe out anything that i aggro within 8-10 seconds, they don't exactly have no where near enough time to even get close to killing anyone in my party.
anyways, enough of this rubble. i have work in the morning and i am due for my sweet bed. me being able to wipe anything out i want in GW in extremely good time and flawlessly do it is enough for me. i have done my work (hence the 28 maxed titles and only needing to finish vanq'ing elona to get 30) and it's been a smooth ride the entire way... so, i need to change absolutely nothing in my build.
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You must own Mallyx in HM than. Clearly you are the best warrior in the game with your super secret build! /jealous
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Feb 26, 2008, 03:36 AM // 03:36
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#31
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2007
Guild: [HAWK]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by angmar_nite
Why do you win PVE that muuchh???
And your obviously bsing like hell. There are shitloads of HM bosses you cant down in 5 seconds such as Willa the unpleasant without a huge specially designed hero + you spike. And your RoN and EC build has far less damage than Dragon slash even without IAS.
And your builds pretty damn obvious now. FGJ, RoN, EC, Sword chain/axe chain blah blah blah.
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willa has never been hard for me personally, and while i support creativity and independance from the norm, and IAS is generally the most accepted basic standard of warrior gameplay.
im not bashing anyone, but more or less coming on here to do what the moderators seemingly never do, and thats to tell you all to settle down.
let Jonnie play her way, you all play your way. i use my own specialized pve hero build, and i shred most groups like tissue, 5-10 seconds max (i use the same build on my sin+hero build), and its no secret (im sure others use it too). but thats me. i enjoy the game, enjoy my heroes, enjoy my builds. how about you all do the same.
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Feb 26, 2008, 04:07 AM // 04:07
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#32
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Southern California
Guild: Charter Vanguard [CV]
Profession: Me/Rt
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When you post something on these forums, it's bound to get critiqued, and that's not a bad thing. not at all. good discussion to teach people who to play.
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Feb 26, 2008, 05:12 AM // 05:12
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#33
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2007
Profession: W/
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Back to the build.
So give up all hope in it?
or any suggestions for it? ( no smart a**es please, i dont know if you can swear on here or not xD)
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Feb 26, 2008, 05:21 AM // 05:21
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#34
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Southern California
Guild: Charter Vanguard [CV]
Profession: Me/Rt
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Yea give up, Primal Rage hurts you more than it helps. It's bad even if it was a normal skill.
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Feb 26, 2008, 05:38 AM // 05:38
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#35
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Likes naked dance offs
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: The Older Gamers [TOG]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Stritter
Back to the build.
So give up all hope in it?
or any suggestions for it? ( no smart a**es please, i dont know if you can swear on here or not xD)
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Its going to be a subpar build, but that doesn't mean you can't use it... heck, if you're ok with running subpar builds, you could go all out and pick up a shortbow:
[skill]Primal Rage[/skill] Dwarven Stablilty [skill]keen arrow[/skill], [skill]disrupting accuracy[/skill] [skill]signet of strength[/skill] I am the strongest! Ebon battle standard of whatever tickles your fancy [skill]resurrection signet[/skill]
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Feb 26, 2008, 06:47 AM // 06:47
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#36
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Guild: None
Profession: W/
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Drunken Master + Beer + Dwarven Stability if you want to use Primal Rage
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Feb 26, 2008, 06:58 AM // 06:58
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#37
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Likes naked dance offs
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: The Older Gamers [TOG]
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drunken master is a stance unfortunately
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Feb 26, 2008, 07:00 AM // 07:00
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#38
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Guild: None
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cellardweller
drunken master is a stance unfortunately
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Oh snap!
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Feb 26, 2008, 07:55 AM // 07:55
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#39
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Banned
Join Date: Feb 2007
Guild: most hated players in the [game]
Profession: R/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
i am 'always' at max adrenaline after the 5 second recharge from RoN. i also have enraging charge in my build and it gives +4 adrenal. so, when skills are recharged i can get them back up instantly with ECN. after i pull off another combo, RoN is recharged and i can use the combo on my bar again, and when the combo is done, i use EC to give my bar max adrenal to pull it off yet AGAIN!. so... as you can see.. it's a neverending loop. i created my build i am solely 100% on 'never' giving it out-- EVER. why? well, my build is my own and i take GREAT pride in what i created and i in no way what so ever want to see it nerfed from some-1 posting it on pvx/wiki and furthermore everyone else using it. i've made builds that made it to "builds" page of wiki (before it was removed) and i've had hundreds, if not thousands, of people use my build.
having said all of this, my build is quite sound
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ur build sounds bad
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Mar 01, 2008, 11:30 PM // 23:30
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#40
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonnieBoi05
i am 'always' at max adrenaline after the 5 second recharge from RoN. i also have enraging charge in my build and it gives +4 adrenal. so, when skills are recharged i can get them back up instantly with ECN. after i pull off another combo, RoN is recharged and i can use the combo on my bar again, and when the combo is done, i use EC to give my bar max adrenal to pull it off yet AGAIN!. so... as you can see.. it's a neverending loop. i created my build i am solely 100% on 'never' giving it out-- EVER. why? well, my build is my own and i take GREAT pride in what i created and i in no way what so ever want to see it nerfed from some-1 posting it on pvx/wiki and furthermore everyone else using it. i've made builds that made it to "builds" page of wiki (before it was removed) and i've had hundreds, if not thousands, of people use my build.
having said all of this, my build is quite sound
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I'm not impressed.
Group - "Can you ping your build?"
You - "No, its too good I don't want anyone else to see it!"
Usually ends in a /kick or you using crap skills without letting anyone else have constructive criticism.
And btw, you having r6 KoABD certainly DOES NOT make you an amazing war. It just means you love to spend hours of your life grinding. Requiring no skill whatsoever.
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